A destroyer already has a base submarine detection of 1, and RADAR adds detection, so save the SONAR. Join. This is where you have a submarine with an engine and single torpedo tube and build as many as you can due to the cheap production cost. The convoy escort gives +30% escort efficiency, which is pretty good because it lowers the number of escort ships required, and +20% sub detection for DDs. Best. . A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by… It enhances Search & Destroy for capital ships, submarine detection for screening ships, and bonuses for all classes, although subs seem least favored. And if this doesnt work, just reinstall the game, its not that big. - When your fleet meets and enemy fleet they begin a naval battle. Its a pretty good expansion of the base game. Exemple US Submarine . This scales [hoi4. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. If the transport plane can only reach 25% of the selected state, their supplies are cut accordingly, even if they reach the entire frontline. DD and Naval Bomber spam. I prefer to build my navy slowly and spam submarines to make naval invasion. Yes. 1. I know that mechanized 1 is slower than motorised, but then I think they get faster at higher levels. Spam divisions/planes. 0 coins. ago. Mid 1. allan11011 • General of the Army • 1 yr. ) yet in-game you can make subs that can sink entire navies. Join. When they are in position that order is useless, once the enemy has marched to your fallback line then you create the frontline to keep them from making stupid gaps. The only case for it is to up the task force's average submarine spotting stats if other ships in the task force have depth charges, but you should have special ASW designs and strike forces anyways. 26K subscribers Subscribe 963 24K views 1 year ago This video serves as an easy to get into guide regarding. Now I'd like to ask some questions about the naval meta. Then: Check what province requires units and put ONLY the elite divisions there. Sub 3 cannot be hit by AI, AI won't retreat because they're at a material advantage. If the host is running the game at a speed one of the players cannot handle and falls more than 24 in game hours behind without the game autopausing they will desync. The Ai cannot handle it. 1. HOI4 Special: Subs with snorkels, lots of Naval bombers. Their main purpose is to keep damage from capital ships. Jump to latest Follow Reply. If you spam subs, you will loose your manpower and uwilt your dockyards to something that you will loose anyways. Win ww2 with least amount of global deaths. In most cases, a fleet in HOI4 is simply a group of naval vessels. Enitity_Enigma • 21 days ago. I am not an expert by any means, but I feel fairly competent with most of the game's mechanics. Best. Long range submarine patrols, and similar mine laying operations are my first two choices. Some lesser known factors that affect naval supremacy : - Air superiority is a factor on naval supremacy - Some missions (convoy raiding and escort) only give you half the naval superiority point, so be sure to be either in strike force, reconnaissance or naval invasion support (training obviously gives 0 point)Well, if submarine 3 is good enough, in practice, against the AI, then upgrading may be counterproductive simply due to production cost. You need to win combats while not taking losses. Float planes were not much more useful than scout planes unless they ran into a submarine or escorted cargo ships. This is a very heavy assult infantry tenplate. Ok so in the great war hoi4 mod (Im playing as German Empire), if you go on construction and look at the trench and land fort icons, they are both grey meaning they need to be unlocked. After that, pressing H will do the job. For tanks the IC cost is less since you also need to train Divisions to. 0 unless otherwise noted. Convoys can carry troops for naval invasion across the see regions that you have "naval supremacy" and if you spam submarines from the start, you will get your naval supremacy sooner or later with submarines. If you don't like planes like me, you can build Sub 3's with full torpedoes with level 1 snorkel and full engine, put them on 20-30 wolfpacks and put them on always engage, even better make sub 4's with full torpedoes, level 2 snorkels and full engine, put on. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. 2- start preparing (or just pump divs out) to make a lot of divisions to rush anschluss. 2. I have about 60 submarines and would like to convoi raid Great Britain. Firstly is the torpedo-ships. ago. Jump to latest Follow Reply. And if you still need more, air sup and CAS. HoI4 is designed to emulate European warfare, the kind of warfare the NRA was not prepared to fight, and it simplifies terrain and supply to such a degree that China's natural advantages are rendered relatively inconsequential. Give wardens destroyer. So this is not bathtub strat (Cool victory tho comrad). I’ve seen Das Boot. (can construct avg 2-4. I don't, but inside the mods folder there will be a folder called 'common' and inside that folder is another folder called 'technologies' and inside that will be several text files named after each researchable tech tree, they contain a list of all the item ids unlocked by researching that tree. They are so good some games literally ban them because they are so. Just using the best templates won’t be enough to win every battle. 25 Duodecillion minimal Battalion templates. This page was last edited on 7 May 2017, at 15:55. 1. You cant retake a fallback position as it wouldn't be "Falling Back". Coastal radar installations help naval superiority and fleet spotting. it's light cruisers that destroy screens a. Yeah, best way as France to get to the British mainland is to land LOTS of paratroopers as soon as you can and get to a port quickly. 9 Badges. ago. Now there's only one way to basically play Japan for example. I am gonna improve the tank template when I. If the enemy is defending with medium tanks, you can attack with heavies to secure the armor bonus for yourself, deny it to the enemy, and have a lot. k. 125 IC 2Steel 1Chromium, which puts its IC/HP ratio at ~18. Like I hate that in order to properly organize your navy you have to regroup all the ships to fleets named task force one, task force two and so on. CA is a screen hunter to counter DD or CL spam and can't reasonably combat capital ships. Mines screw with enemies, make them slow down and stuff. A. Submarine spam 1-2 tank divisions. So while navies are fun for 'shts'n'giggles', and occasionally you need a few ships for invasions, if you're asking for what is 'effective' its air. So I build an airbase, and before I can select some planes to put in the airbase, my allies put 5000 planes in a level one airbaseBest. ago. In reality it is an order of magnitude cheaper to move freight by sea and river than by rail. Possibly the easiest meta in the game, and the one that most people go for is the submarine spam. SirStrider666 • 4 yr. This thread is archived. Then just spam these out. Edit to link to my cut/paste. #hoi4 #news #HYPEA closer look at the new Dev Diary with a look at some changes to the Naval aspect of the game! A NEW DLC is in the works!Dev Diary: I have 500 hours on the game, mostly in multiplayer focusing on Navies since I cant micro ground forces very good. l to ensure that your capitals are effectively screened. Submarine spam is the only way to play hoi4 navy Reply Kermez • Additional comment actions. Thank you. mainman879 • 9 mo. FirstEquinox • 4 yr. Secret Master. So i decided to give naval surface units (apart from destroyers) another chance when i bought MtG DLC. So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. -Spam NAVs -Win If something needs to be more realist, is the plane system: no IRL plane had 1:1 Thrust-Weight ratio. Before joining the war I wanted to naval invade Gibraltar, Malta and Cyprus really quickly to cut off British ports in the Mediterranean and block their access to it, but my navy got immediately obliterated and I only. You can also do a double motorized for even more supply but you’ll eat your trucks doing it. For the record, my play style is usually just spamming naval mines because that's all I understand. From what I've seen when you get 90% or higher army intel you also get intel on fake divisions. I've always annihilated and been annihilated if subs/destroyers run into a large naval group. Their counter is Battle Cruisers. Their survivability is in their speed. ago. the game is made in sweden yet theres no swedish lamguage paradox = lazy. Whenever I host and start the game speed slows down bit by bit every second or two. It's only a game when there are understandable rules. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. The only thing that worked was restarting my computer. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. The thing this division is good at is attacking heavy defenses, realistically to soften it up before a armored breakthrough. Set you sub fleet to engage at high risk, medium repair priority and enable automatic split off. r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy? See more posts like this in r/hoi4. Heavy cruisers are the undisputed kings of light attack, mainly because they can mount light cruiser batteries in all their slots (BBs and BCs need to mount either heavy batteries or secondaries, which are far worse). ; 4 CV's and 100 DD's and CL's), but without more control over naval combat, will this just result in more losses of naval units because they suffer these criticals and slowly limp across the sealanes back towards. And if you can get green air in the channel then just spam bombers there too. Report. It was the first time AI France goes fascist in my game, probably because they get destroyed early on in most games, leaving them without a government to change. Base Strike is more focused on Carriers & Naval Bombers. • 4 yr. Delta974 • 4 yr. I would say subs are the most OP. The British and French navies had to throw 2 carrier taskforces at her to finally corner her in Uruguay, but not before she sank 2 dozen merchant vessels and tankers, and captured the crews of half a dozen more. CowboyRonin • 1 yr. When the units are in transit, you can cancel the attack using 'H', they. I also just can't get any air superiority over Japan, so I can't nuke. Simple solution. You'll achieve more with planes at sea, so build planes, and don't build dockyards. They are really only useful for convoy-raiding and some niche fleet compositions. Making some decent air force for minor countries is harder now - for example, if You want to do bathtub spam, it is enough to research two technologies (submarine one and torpedos). The weaknesses are enemy airpower, good ASW cruisers, or destroyer spam (but destroyers only deter and not kill). 666. lancefighter • 4 yr. 11. Naval Rebalance - Sub and Cruiser spam is DEAD!! #hoi4 #news #HYPE A closer look at the new Dev Diary with a look at some changes to the Naval aspect of the game! A NEW DLC is in. ULTIMATE Submarine META PRO Guide - HOI4 Meta Navy Guide00:00 Subs!00:23 Why subs are broken01:36 Lets make a submarine04:09 Getting started07:44 Trade Inter. Your production should be 90% fighter 2 when you get it (late 38). 371K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Originally posted by Random: the easiest and most effective way to wipe out subs on mass is to setup about 4 groups of 10-15 destroyers with at least 2 secondary gun components setup to depth charges (pretty much every destroyer that isn't a minelayer or minesweeper should have this) with your highest available radar + sonar, and set them to. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. 0 unless otherwise noted. Sure but there is still sea access from London to Alexandria (supply hub for Africa), it just goes through Panama, the Pacific, and through the Red Sea. allan11011 • General of the Army • 1 yr. Yes. Please remember this video is not the be all end all,. not if you have to fight a large naval group. Naval Bombers are the fastest and most cost efficient way early on. Look at the spanish civil war and the indian liberation army. If you are going to ship troops stack your subs and hope for the best. Ask if it doesn't work, hope this helps :)Hearts of Iron. Also flanking and encirclement. r/hoi4. 6% better. After the 5th their org should be down enough to run over. Vote. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. I can usually get. I swear every time I try to use paratroopers they give me a headache, the times where they simply wouldn't launch are more that the ones where they worked! CommanderEggnog • 2 min. When you get the 1940 subs w/ snorkels, you can go on the offense to hunt down big fleets. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. Motorized are largely just faster infantry. 221. Turn your 18 width infantry with shovels into 40 width 14-4s with R. The subs are also backed up by NAVs and heavy fighters operating from Manila. DN = dreadnought. 0 version. ago. 12 comments. Though designs will help you a lot, you will also need to know a bit about how naval warfare works in HOI4 if you want to win. I've been trying to keep up my production, but my two fleets in the area, the Baltic Fleet and the Home Fleet, have. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. It's the meta for a reason. The desktop kind. DD is a submarine hunter and cannon fodder. This is the fact AI never upgrades sonar or detection and will never retreat when they cannot detect their enemy. a. My current strategy is to drop a few divisions surrounding. Well, they've reached their limit of supplies they can deliver. I use tanks for occupation, go for the craziest possible. The long and short of it is heavy surface raiders are very easily countered by just adding more escorts to your convoys. subscribers . spawn [<SubUnit Type>] [<Province ID>] [<Amount>]This is the most powerful doctrine for surface action. When enemy subs are sighted, your. ago. Given this purpouse it shouldn't have engineers, recon or military. There is no point in adding more than three main batteries. I know the feeling. 2. Surface Raiders have higher kill rates because they have higher surface detection to find convoys. json (in document/paradox interactive/hoi4) it's the list of mods you have subscribed to. [deleted] • 7 yr. Delta974 • 4 yr. Submarine Wolfpack --- Minimum: 20 Subs; Sweet Spot: 30 Subs; Maximum: 50 Subs; Raiding Group --- Minimum: 5 DDs, 25 Subs OR 5 CLs, 25 Subs; Convoy. here is the chart. 3. It might have been patched in the beta 1. ago. After that, leave a defensive army along the Polish border in your puppet's territory, they'll play an important role later on during the war. However you may still have a need for some destroyers against enemy subs riding your own convoys. I manage to do the simple things like annex france etc and all of europe is under my control, by 1942 atleast, uk and us spam millions of naval invasions mainland of france of mini units, i have about 200 divisions defending ports and coast but they dont stop coming and. Click the army and look for a horse icon near your general card and change it to motorized supply. Tier 4 Subs can also do a great job sinking the enemies fleet unless you get tricked into convoy raiding a sea tile full of exclusively sub hunting destroyers. If you want to play naval 4 Carriers and a bunch of Dads should do the trick. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. 25) attack after modifiers. Idk man, my dad can't swim. There's a huge opportunity cost to building carriers, not just in terms of MIC to build the planes and NIC to build the CV (plus their screens), but there are better uses of your research slots. Terrains Combat Widths. r/hoi4 • You’re tasked with creating a new Focus Tree for a nation that doesn’t have one, which nation is it, and what’s a main feature of it?. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20 subs. Build Sub 3/4s with snorkels. Antonio. Submarines OP. 2 anti air attack, increasing their score by 4. Having a ton of navs basically guarantees you’ll win. ago. You should always add exactly one float plane catapult to all of your capitals. Spain is also good, although you have to go first through the civil war. They have the world's greatest submarine battleship force. Best Naval Spirits for Submarine spam Question Playing as Ireland, managed to grab Northern Ireland and join the Axis, was wondering which spirits were the best for Submarines only. DN = dreadnought. Heavy tank destroyers and SPArt are both really good. 1- don't do any focus until you get 50 pp and immediately justify on poland. I seem to not be able to pass anything above 2 bar speed regardless of what setting the game speed bar is on. You WILL need at least a full production line of Infantry equipment, you WILL need a full production line of fighters, and even support equipment depending on how you play. Dont even think of putting 2 torps, 4 CA guns and a spotting plane on the Takao class ships that are somehow Myoko class ships in Hoi4 even though they are different. Set you sub fleet to engage at high risk, medium repair priority and enable automatic split off. 1 Lavaix1 Fleet Admiral • 1 yr. I'm using airbases in Turkey, and am ready to paradrop soldiers in, but I don't to do it, just to get overrun after running out of supply in a few days. It was the first time AI France goes fascist in my game, probably because they get destroyed early on in most games, leaving them without a government to change. Delete the units. Option a) naval bomber option b) submarine. Good enough. Hover over the unit in your division to see if it can be paradropped. Battalions can be of the same type, so that results in 40 25, or 11. 0 + 0. It works against countries that dont have a large naval group and as a small naval power theres not really the option of doing much else. fug. Fingers crossed. Not a huge savings but one that adds up. Naval bombers are good to do most of the sinking. Hell, the most damage done by naval bombers by Germany was the FW-200 that was converted from a passenger aircraft, and real one, not a cover up one like the He-111 disguised as high speed poorly suited mail and passenger planes. The reason for submarine spamming in game and in history iis because they were cheap. 3. Then this will then evenly distribute the armies over the from the line. A basic panzerschiffe is going to cost 5235 IC 4S (steel), which is a pretty major investment for only 220 HP, which is an IC/HP ratio of about 23. 203. gaoruosong • 3 yr. 0. 1. Also just bypass the fort/mountain. In my honest and humble opinion, if you want to spam ships which are quickly build, go for one of these. Put radar in that slot. I've never tried cloud save but Ironman save can be corrupted easily if you forcefully quit the game. Build Cruisers with one cheapest heavy gun and the rest the best light guns you can get. Having air superiority is super important for spotting and battle. But you have to do every nation separately. Alica90 Air Marshal • 6 yr. 76. But it would be cool to also have, for example, regional factions, where anyone of any (or at least any reasonably-compatible) ideologies can join, so long as they. On the Land fort it says it needs defensive bunker technology, and for the trench it says it needs vaubans. Fallout 4, HOI4, Final Fantasy X/X-2, Skyrim, Valheim, The Outer Worlds,. Also subs count less towards naval supremacy. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox. Battleships are by far the single strongest ship you can produce in Hearts of Iron IV. r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy?According to his experience they don't. It would be like if armored trains and rail guns were faction exclusive. Build Sub 3/4s with snorkels. The AI isn't prepared so the defense starts scattered. Lose form the Franco British Union then do the. Am I producing equipment the wrong way? Not sure if any of this will make sense but here we go. Rush the focuses: Revive the national bloc-laissez faire-economic devolution-protect rights of man-blum violet proposal-expand citizenship-encourage immigration-utilize the leagues-counsil of remboillet-revise the constitution and continue from there to the napoleon focuses. Turn your 18 width infantry with shovels into 40 width 14-4s with R. As we all know ships in Hoi4 have been completely changed the old "rock-paper-scissors" system of pre MTG naval combat, e. There are some big weaknesses in the supply system of both hoi4 and hoi3, but in a different way. The year is 1953 and I am still waiting for the AI to make any attempt of a naval invasion so I can nuke my own core territory and unlock the achievement. Light Cruisers can get a very high operational range and destroy many convoys very quickly. Coins. For comparison, the BC1 costs 6853. Edit to link to my cut/paste. None of my fighter units upgraded to jets and when I went to deploy new units there weren't any jets under fighters and there wasn't a category for jet. 4 comments. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Yes but for other countries that aren’t japan. 0 + 0. ago. Theres an event in the base game, UK can take a decision to demand vichy france's fleet, listed in operations as mers_el_kebir_raid. Thing is, I have over 85% naval suppremacy in all the regions. For example, somebody who is in modern day Tunisia could make Tunisia, Tunis, Carthage, etc. IIRC when you plan an airborne invasion you have to assign one of your airport as the launching point (just as you do with naval one from a port) and the assigned units should move there. NoChecks, but it didn't seem to do anything, as I still couldn't take the decision). 9. ago. Ctrl alt delete open task manager, restart windows explorer. I'm put a week aside to fully mod the UI to swedish. Try fitting a DD with 3 DP guns and 3 torpedoes with depth charges, you run out of slots so you must sacrifice either ASW or a torpedo. Give your sub snorkel, best (and maximum amount of) torpedos and best engine. g. A halfway comprehending of navy player would just spam DD with anti. Although i did notice that doesnt work 100% of the time, seems to be mostly the case with Newspaper Events. If you want to play naval 4 Carriers and a bunch of Dads should do the trick. Learned To Love Submarine Groups. r/hoi4 • When the Superior Firepower-cel say something so defensephobic you gotta hit them with the GBPChad stare. ; About Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki; Mobile viewThis isnt the subs. If your carrier is sitting in a port or in a sea zone with no mission, then you can select the air. However, the longer your divisions are moving or in action, the planning bonus dwindles. r/hoi4. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox. Got back into HOI4 recently and this time around i'm really invested in learning and pushing for my first world conquest/win. SS Submarine – cheap, slow, limited loadout options; SS Cruiser Submarine – cheap, unique to a few countries, slow, special loadout options. 12, spamming subs is no longer a viable option for fleet-building. Task Force Admiral looks good. ago. This is the most powerful doctrine for surface action. The only case for it is to up the task force's average submarine spotting stats if other ships in the task force have depth charges, but you should have special ASW designs and strike forces anyways. I know monarchist and Franco spain. Same thing with air wings, although admittedly I don't really know how to organize those in HOI4 either. Reply seesaww •. Putting naval bombers and fighters along with radars on land will find the enemy navy extremely fast and put a lot of damage on them. These can be surface ships, submarines, and/or aircraft carriers. Pretty useless for naval combat. ago. Just want to know how honestly. Bait them into encirclement or just out murder them. Speed is king, always retreat at any sign of trouble and stay out of air range. 1 to 1x but not above. r/hoi4. Great War Mod Cant Find Research For Some Technology. 3. Can submarines transfer troops tho might just go full submarine in my game 😭 This thread is archived. Recon fleets come in about five ships, and sub fleets use five to ten submarines. Pretty useless for naval combat. You shouldn't need to spend more than $150 on a graphics card to able to max out the graphics for HOI4. Anything to look out for to. You can utilize surface raiders as well. The way supply hubs distribute supply in general is also extremely strange, but that's a separate. So I build an airbase, and before I can select some planes to put in the airbase, my allies put 5000 planes in a level one airbaseGo to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Join my discord:. IMHO, there's no reason to build CV if you're just operating in the Med because you can fully cover all of the sea zones with land-based aircraft. Submarine Designs. Still, if you've played other Paradox titles, you're probably used to games where playing a powerful nation is painfully easy, and you know that you. But in general, which is superior. Battleship Designs. I personally divide my subs into 5 groups and set each group a target strength of 20. That said this is basically meta (against AI). A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. 299k members in the hoi4 community. RELEASED SGc - Save Game Converter - converts save games to XML format for easy viewing in freeware XML viewers. classteen • Fleet Admiral • 2 yr. The two german minelayers indirectly killed a good number of ships in my last run. I've read mines help with naval supremacy and they are relatively efficient submarine wise. Secondly are the heavy cruisers. Firebombing killed more in Japan than the nukes yet two firebombing raids didn't make them surrender. If you go on naval view you can hover your cursur over naval regions and see how many ships are in the area. As we all know ships in Hoi4. Now start the game in admin mode through the exe file in the steam folder (not through steam itself). ; heavy attack spam: to counter the best build you need the best anti-build. Business, Economics, and Finance. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. 2. Look for the surface detection stat. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. You should aim for a total of at least 4-5 destroyers per cruiser. If not, reduce the amount of units you want to paradrop or build more. the reason you build light cruisers as any naval power (uk. They're very expensive to build, so don't go overboard. Were* a naval power. They can also function as independent tank divisions. "Carrier Battles" is a good game series about Carrier fighting. have like 10-20 of these in each task force for sinking. Rakzhor • Research Scientist • 7 yr. If you cover the whole area or can't cover more. "Forget all your naval options and spam submarines" - Sun Tzu. The fact that patches are pretty much only released with DLCs and DLCs are released once per year doesn't really help, either. 1 comment. Best. spam destroyers armed with best radar and torpedoes and see what happens.